Thursday, March 13, 2008

"Gaza erupted in celebration last week to the news that a Palestinian had murdered Jewish religious students in Jerusalem. And almost daily terrorists send rockets from Gaza into nearby Israeli cities, hoping to kill civilians and provoke Israeli counter-responses -- and perhaps start another Middle East war." -- Victor Davis Hanson

The Right Thinker reads this and says "my, god, the mass murder of innocent students, what a horrible crime."

The leftist sees the same story and, having been taught in kindergarten that "everybody's nice" (therefore every child must be invited to the kindergartener's party) says the Jews MUST have done something to make this nice people do it.

Then we see the terrorists brethren nothing less than dancing in the streets over cold blooded mass murder of innocent students and the Right Thinker recognizes there's a sickness in the Arab world. The Modern Liberal looks, knows how sick it is and has no choice but to say those JEWS must be really horrible for such a nice community to be dancing over their deaths. Any other conclusion would be bigotry.

And the leftist is not a bigot. So, he has no choice but to hate the Jews for making nice terrorists kill them.

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Anonymous said...

I was right - dumber by the hour.

I have yet to meet anyone who actually put a condom on a banana in school. But if they did, you can be damn sure it's because parents actually want their kids to learn about safe sex, which is a reasonable point of view. As for mom and dad being banned, that sounds like something you lifted right out of a wingnut mass email.

A few reactionary parents want to allow the teaching of creationism. Get a few of these on the school board, and you get a Dover, Pennsylvania. The vast majority of parents, of course, want their kids to get a proper science education, which means evolutionary theory, which is why that's what most schools teach.

As far as the last part of your nonsense, that's yet another straw man. That's what you people are best at, really.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I stand corrected. Wait, if everything in Gov-school is parent-driven, yet the parents want creation in school, but its not there....Must be a disconnect in your theory.


Apparently this pinhead has never been educated in any kind of school. You'd have to rearrange his genes before you could even begin to talk to him.

Richard Hartman said...

Mr. boil,

You said: "I have yet to meet anyone who actually put a condom on a banana in school."

Of course this speaks less of its existence and more of your awareness...

"But if they did, you can be damn sure it's because parents actually want their kids to learn about safe sex..."

Google "condom on a banana". In addition to entertaining your self for hours, you'll see old instructional videos, non-parent organizations teaching it. I heard about it some 15+ years ago. Nothing new really.

Though you say you are "damn sure" parents would or did support this or that, you seem to be short on proof, unless of course, your saying it is all the proof you think anybody needs.

Richard Hartman said...

Good evening janocek,

"Apparently this pinhead has never been educated in any kind of school."

Public school actually.
Why fling such vile? Can you not address me directly?

"You'd have to rearrange his genes before you could even begin to talk to him."

So you're from that compassionate, tolerant, open-minded worldview. Isn't there something in the political correctness manifesto that prohibits foul comments about one's genetics? No wait, it was Al Gore in 1994 that denigrated his political opponents by saying they had an extra chromosome.

So much for walking the talk...

Richard Hartman said...

Good evening Mr. boil.

"homeschooling... children are being given half-assed educations by parents who are unqualified to teach..."

In 1997, a study of 5,402 homeschool students from 1,657 families was released. It was entitled, "Strengths of Their Own: Home Schoolers Across America." The study demonstrated that homeschoolers, on the average, out-performed their counterparts in the public schools by 30 to 37 percentile points in all subjects. A significant finding when analyzing the data for 8th graders was the evidence that homeschoolers who are homeschooled two or more years score substantially higher than students who have been homeschooled one year or less. The new homeschoolers were scoring on the average in the 59th percentile compared to students homeschooled the last two or more years who scored between 86th and 92nd percentile.

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Another important finding of Strengths of Their Own was that the race of the student does not make any difference. There was no significant difference between minority and white homeschooled students. For example, in grades K-12, both white and minority students scored, on the average, in the 87th percentile. In math, whites scored in the 82nd percentile while minorities scored in the 77th percentile. In the public schools, however, there is a sharp contrast. White public school eighth grade students, nationally scored the 58th percentile in math and the 57th percentile in reading. Black eighth grade students, on the other hand, scored on the average at the 24th percentile in math and the 28th percentile in reading. Hispanics scored at the 29th percentile in math and the 28th percentile in reading.

Referrence:Dr. Brian Ray, Strengths of Their Own: Home Schoolers Across America, National Home Education Research Institute, Salem, OR, 1997.
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If homeschooled minorities score in the 77th percentile, and that's "half-assed".....then, would the minorities who scored in the 28th percentile in the public schools be "quarter-assed" or "1/6th-assed" since their score is 1/3 of the "half-assed" homeschoolers?

Just help me with the math here. I mean, you are interested in Children getting the best education right? So whatever way did work: public school, private school, homeschool, You'd be for that right?

Anonymous said...

It is somewhat amazing how easy it is to expose the ignorance of the right.

Did you notice who published that study? An advocacy group, that's who. Immediately, the bullshit alarm should start ringing. Now, do you understand the concept of a "biased sample"? The samples of home-schooled kids used in that study are taken on a voluntary basis, because of course there is no systematic data on homeschool test achievement. Now, I'm sure I don't have to connect the dots for you to understand that a study using voluntary subjects is self-selecting for high achievers. And that comparing that self-selected group to actual data culled from public school records is misleading at best and deliberately deceptive at worst.

Richard Hartman said...

Mr. Boil,

"Did you notice who published that study? An advocacy group, that's who."

State Department of Education Statistics on Homeschoolers

Several state departments of education or local school districts have also gathered statistics on the academic progress of homeschooled children.

Tennessee
In the spring of 1987, the Tennessee Department of Education found that homeschooled children in 2nd grade, on the average, scored in the 93rd percentile while their public school counterparts, on the average, scored in the 62nd percentile on the Stanford Achievement Test. Homeschool children in third grade scored, on the average, in the 90th percentile in reading on another standardized test, and the public school students scored in the 78 percentile. In math, the third grade homeschooled children scored, on the average, in the 87th percentile, while their public school counterparts scored in the 80th percentile. In eighth grade, the homeschooled students scored, on the average, in the 87th percentile in reading and in 71st percentile in math while their public school counterparts scored in the 75th percentile in reading and the 69th percentile in math.

Reference: Office of the Commissioner, Tennessee Department of Education, Home School Student Test Results: 1986 and 1987, (Nashville, 1987).
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Funny how this state department study corroborates what the big bad advocacy group did. Normally, this is where you say "Oh, isn't that interesting. Maybe there is some validity to this."

However, I'm not so naive to think that facts, logic, & reason could persuade such a scholar as yourself.

Remember, keep throwing out the data sets until your correlation reads how you want it to. You'll sleep better.

Anonymous said...

Once again, that is comparing voluntary subjects with mandatory ones. Do you understand this distinction?

Richard Hartman said...

Mr. boil,

Once again, that is comparing voluntary subjects with mandatory ones. Do you understand this distinction?

Teach me.* And use some of that non-advocacy evidence you've been hoarding.

I was going to post other state and locality study results to back up my point, but I see you have convenient excuses to dismiss any evidence that does not support your worldview.

Continue in bliss my friend.
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* Of course, you must be certified by the state to do this so that I won't receive a half-assed education here. We are trying to protect the rights of the bloggers, you know.

Richard Hartman said...

Mr. boil: I swear you people get dumber by the hour.
Mr. boil: When it comes to homeschooling... children are being given half-assed educations by parents who are unqualified to teach...
Mr. boil: I was right - dumber by the hour.
Mr. boil: Did you notice who published that study? An advocacy group...

Tennessee
... Tennessee Department of Education found that homeschooled children ... on the average, scored in the 93rd percentile....

Alaska and Oregon
... the State Department of Education in Alaska which had surveyed homeschooled children's test results every other year since 1981, found homeschooled children to be scoring approximately 16 percentage points higher, on the average, than the children of the same grades in conventional schools. In Oregon, the State Department of Education compiled test score statistics for 1,658 homeschooled children in 1988 and found that 51 percent of the children scored above the 71st percentile and 73 percent scored above the 51st percentile.

North Carolina
In North Carolina, the Division of Non-Public Education compiled test results of 2,144 homeschool students in grades K-12. Of the 1,061 homeschool students taking the California Achievement Test, they scored, on the average, at the 73rd percentile on the total battery of tests: 80th percentile in reading, 72nd percentile in language, and the 71st percentile in math.

The 755 homeschool students who took the Iowa Test of Basic Skills scored at the 80th percentile in the total battery of tests: 81st percentile in reading, 77th percentile in language, and 77th percentile in math. The remaining students who took the Stanford scored, on the average, in the 73rd percentile in the whole battery.


Arkansas
.... homeschool children, on the average, scored in 75% on the Metropolitan Achievement Test 6. They out-scored public school children in every subject (Reading, Math, Language, Science, and Social Studies) and at every grade level...

Arizona
According to the Arizona State Department of Education, 1,123 homeschooled children in grades 1-9, on the average, scored above grade level in reading, language arts, and math on standardized tests for the 1988-89 school year. Four grades tested were a full grade level ahead.

Nebraska
In Nebraska, out of 259 homeschooled children who returned to public or non-public schools, 134 of them were automatically placed in their grade level according to their age without testing. Of the remaining who were given entrance tests, 33 were above grade level, 43 were at grade level, and 29 were below grade level. Approximately 88 percent of the returning students were at or above grade level after being homeschooled for a period of time...


I hope one of us is getting un-dumber by the hour. After you find excuses why these are invalid, I’ve got more studies.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to speak slow, so you can understand.

Every. Single. One. Of. Those. Studies. Uses. Data. Compiled. From. Voluntary. Sources.

That. Is. Not. A. Systematic. Way. To. Study. Homeschooling.

Richard Hartman said...

And yet you produce none, not voluntary, not any, no data to support your side that homeschooling is substandard to government schools.

Anonymous said...

Here's some lovely updates:
March 7, 2008

GOP Chairman Donald Fleishchman back in court on
pedophile charges

Donald Fleischman, faces criminal charges for allegedly fondling a
16-year-old Ethan House runaway and providing the boy with
beer and marijuana late last year. He was charged with two
counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the
delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to
a child.

If convicted, Fleischman faces 52 years in prison.

Ex-GOP chair in court on sex charges

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha "COY" Privette... March 1, 2008

Republican Commissioner
Privette won't give up seat after
prostitution arrest

On August 22, 2007 North Carolina
Republican Coy Privette pleaded guilty
to aiding and abetting prostitution and
was sentenced to 48 hours of community
service.




Most of the Republican party in North Carolina have called for
Privette to resign from the Cabarrus County Board of
Commissioners. He has chosen not to. Also on Privette’s resume
is his unsuccessful campaign for Governor in 1976 and President
of the Christian Action League.

'Hell has just frozen over'

Despite prostitution plea, Privette stays

Anonymous said...

He Keeps Trying:

March 12, 2008

Tate Indicted a 2nd Time for Election
Fraud

Republican state Senate candidate Mark Tate
has been indicted on nine counts of perjury and
two counts of election fraud by a grand jury. A trial
date has been set for September 8, 2008.

Trial Date Set in Election Fraud Case

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