Wednesday, December 26, 2007

WHO ARE THESE DEMOCRATS?

Who is Barack Hussein Obama and why is he anything more than an afterthought in the Democrats' quest for power?

The answer is, of course, that we have no idea. He hasn't even served one term in the United States Senate, a place where he is one of but one hundred voices. His legislative efforts as the junior Senator with no experience has equally been missing while on the campaign trail his great policy initiatives have been to utter meaningless words like "hope" and "change" always devoid of substance.

Who is Hillary Rodham Clinton that she should be the leading candidate for the Democrats' nomination in the fall? She's a one-term Senator, a carpetbagger who calculated that she would be a "lifelong Yankee fan" so long as she could get a stepping stone to personal power.

Her claim to experience -- the fact that she was married to a president -- would be laughable except that, compared to Obama, she IS the more tested and learned. After all, at least she was sometimes within shouting distance when her narcissistic husband would orgasm with an intern.

This -- again, one of one hundred, like Scott Baio sitting in on that game show -- junior Senator from a far-leftists East Coast state, has put forth few policy initiatives, seeing the Senate not as a job but as a necessary line on the resume before instantly jumping into the Presidential sweepstakes.

Who is John Edwards? He's a one-term Senator -- one in a hundred bodies to hide amongst as he accomplished nothing -- who began running for President in 2002 -- two years into his Senate term. His campaign is based on creating hatred for the boogeyman, "the rich," a group that only a very, very few belong to at the level of this man himself (can you say "self-hate"?).

In fact, of the three Democrats given a chance of winning the nomination, not one has served more than a single term, not one hasn't hidden amongst a hundred, as the junior senator from their state, and not one is saying anything of substance.

It's not like the Democrats don't have candidates with executive experience. Bill Richardson was a governor. It's not like they don't have Senators with more than a few years experience, there's the elder "statesman," Joe Biden.

Yet these people are way back in the pack -- also rans -- to a bunch of Juniors. Why? Because the more the American people know about a Democrat the more they reject them as duplicitous and damaging. (Ever wonder why Hillary didn't run for Senate from her home state where they know her best?)

The Democrats with accountability (Richardson) or whose length of tenure gives him a "body-of-work"(Biden) cannot hide from their leftist beliefs and the failures of their leftist policies. Hillary can by changing her position every few days (or seconds as with drivers licenses for illegals) or by blaming others in the Senate. Who's to know where Hillary REALLY stands on anything because who knows what this former sex partner of a president (if) and one-term junior Senator really believes?
Obama can get away with muttering meaningless phrases for he cannot be challenged on his non-existent record. Really, what else is there for him to talk about?


Compare and contrast the leading candidates on the Republican side.

Leading the pack are three former executives -- Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee -- and a Republican elder statesman from the Senate, John McCain. Trailing in this race is the less experienced former Senator, Fred Thompson, and at the bottom are those who while having more experience than the three leading Democrats (sometimes combined)are just one in the crowd (Tancredo, Hunter, Paul).

In other words, in stark comparison to the leftists, the leading Republican candidates are people of experience and accountability who address their real records and their real accomplishments.

For the Democrat, it is an advantage to be unknown and unaccountable. For the Republican it is an advantage to have led and to have a track-record.

155 comments:

Kirk said...

Democrats have demonstrated time and time again, that they care more about "popular," than they do "substance."

Farmer John said...

I'd say both parties were "banking" on the American voter being in a certain "mindset" come November.

Either the tabla rasa of "change/hope" or a more same-o/same-o "competent bureaucracy".

Dissatisfaction will lead to a Democrat. The more dissatisfaction, the greater the probability of a vote for change.

And let's face it. The DNC is the party of America's disgruntled discontents. How much more discontent they can sew in the broad middle between now and November will decide the contest. They were pretty good at it in '06.

Danny Glover said...

Keep up the great work Evan.

The Dems will not talk about Iraq anymore because they know they have painted themselves in a corner by embracing failure prematurely. Hillary (who will be the DNC nominee) has proposed the largest tax increase of all time ($400,000,000,000) and to make matters worse relies on a failed healthcare plan to entice her sheep-like constituency.

The best is that GW has gotten everything he ever wanted (continuous funding for Iraqi freedom, vetoed sCHIP, and crushed numerous other pork ladened bills beneath his ropers). I also love how he drives them over the edge with his HUGE freakin' belt buckle. The knowledge of a strong economy and low unemployment reflects off of his buckle into their beady little eyes as they wake up at noon to pack a bowl of some "killer bad KB nugs."

Evan, I have a question for you: Why does the Dem Party rely on the victim mentality in order to stay in power? Is it because if they embraced success they would inevitably turn out to be a Republican, thus hating themselves?

Danny Glover said...

One more question:

Is Louisiana (where I'm from) a microcosm for what it would be like if the Dems (who have controlled La. politix since reconstruction) were to control every branch of the Gov't?

We just elected the youngest Governor (Bobby Jindal) ever. Not to mention he's a Catholic Indian-American Conservative as well as a Rhodes Scholar.
La. is last in education, employment, health care and first in crime, and political corruption. In my opinion there is not coincidence b/w poor education and political corruption. After all , if you keep the masses ignorant then how can they challenge your authority?

wellreddfocks said...

Pinhead axes pinhead: "Evan, I have a question for you: Why does the Dem Party rely on the victim mentality in order to stay in power? Is it because if they embraced success they would inevitably turn out to be a Republican, thus hating themselves?"

This place is a goldmine...what is it ...the old Amos and Andy show done by honky cretins? haha...you're catching on all over boys...keep up the good work.

GW said...

I don't like this guy. I was butt one of fifty...and by my own reckoning, nothing but a media creation.

Danny Glover said...

wellredfocks,
i wear your disapproval as a badge of honor.

you know i'm right though.

Evan Sayet said...

"Imagine there's no countries. No religions, too." Imagine a time when anything and everything that mankind values has been so devalued that there's nothing to care about enough to put your life on the line for it.

This is the Democrats' anthem. They have NOTHING to care about or champion. Thus they can offer no policy to lift people up. All they can do is try to profit by tearing others down (they call the successful "the rich") and count on the hate and anger they breed in the failures they create (by destroying our schools, by providing incentives NOT to succeed, e.g. welfare, high paying "minimum wage" jobs, etc).

The Democrats breed failure then count on the failed to be ignorant, angry and hateful enough to vote them in because rather than having to face their own failed behaviors, they tell the losers they are "victims" of the successful.

Louisiana is a perfect example, where leftists like Ray Nagin steal the people's money, do nothing to help them (e.g use the buses that were sitting right there) and then scream about how whitey hates black people.

Mole year said...

Uh you reek...wait you reek uh, I got it...he's a satirist...the lefty is evil, pure evil, no grey, he wears a black hat and skulks in alley muttering to himself. He has talent scouts out looking for programs which are bound to fail so he can support them. Or is he just really simple minded? What's your guess?

Whybabywhy? said...

Query for the queer I. Why is all that successful corporate money going to the democrats this year?
Why does all the failed trailer trash honky bigot redneck ignorami vote for the potty of s...excess?

gayiyiyi said...

I have an idea, let's get Serrano to run media for the Clintoon Campaign!

Evan Sayet said...

There are no shades of gray in this because it is a philosophical difference in how one sees the world.

Democrats, being "open minded" are incapable of admitting to better cultures and better behaviors. When these better cultures and better behaviors evidence themselves with success, the Dem has no explanation. Success to the Modern Liberal is proof positive of injustice. It's not fair that the successful have succeeded since they're not doing anything better than anyone else (since the ML can't admit anything is better than anything else).

Therefore the leftist invariably sides with evil, failure and wrong whose evil behaviors, wrong choices and failure MUST be a result of their victimization.

What are their policies in the schools? Take away the honor roll and the valedictorian awards and promote the illiterate through social promotions and grade inflation. What is their policy in the Middle East? Destroy Israel, give the terrorists more land and guns and money. What is their policy in Iraq? Call our troops "Nazis," demand our surrender and root for the terrorists to win.

again said...

Query for the queer I. Why is all that successful corporate money going to the democrats this year?
Why does all the failed trailer trash honky bigot redneck ignorami vote for the potty of s...excess?

2xthefool said...

Hey, the gay-guy's proud of the corporate pay-offs going to the DNC to counter all the grass-roots political money going to the GOP.

What a maroon!

Danny Glover said...

Score 1 for the Libs!

Bhutto was assassinated by AQ.

elitegal said...

Simple guy blurts: Hey, the gay-guy's proud of the corporate pay-offs going to the DNC to counter all the grass-roots political money going to the GOP.

Gee, your gufyru keeps telling us how wonderful all those SUCCESSFUL corporations are and how the right supports all that SUCCESS...but it seems those SUCCESSFUL guys don't think much of the FAILURE invested right wing and prefers the SUCCESS supporting democrats. Why does the right wing simp want to dis those evil corporations who make America GREAT? Does he hate SUCCESS?

Anonymous said...

World's dumbest crackpot says:
Therefore the leftist invariably sides with evil, failure and wrong whose evil behaviors, wrong choices and failure MUST be a result of their victimization.

Is this goofball for real, or is this some kind of flakey attempt at comedy? In either case, no wonder this lunatic is a failure in everything...comedy career, which causes his hatred and envy of show biz types...blogging, where he apparently has about three fans as stupid as he is...and a few others who come to ridicule him...how does this failure feed his family? Hey, I bet he's on food stamps and welfare. A self hating welfare queen...that's the only answer.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

I just enjoy the freak show.

Danny Glover said...

"Is this goofball for real..."

This Libs reaction to Evan's observation only further proves the point that Libs cannot tolerate anyone pointing out the failures of their brethren.

Remember that in a Libs mind it's about intentions not results.

Actually if you think about it all top 5 of the Rep Prez Candidates engage in contrasting debates over real & defining ideas while the 3 top Dem candidates all speak the same platitudes and generalizations. As far as I can tell the top Dem contenders have the same idea on health care, foreign policy, and the economy.

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

...and they all probably pulled a Biden and plagiarized it from some British Labour MP.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

See? It's motherfucking hilarious.

Danny Glover said...

thissitemakesmesad,

Is that all you got? Evan's site must really register with you if all you can say is "See? It's motherfucking hilarious."


Instead of raising your voice you should reinforce your argument.

Danny Glover said...

thissitemakesmesad,

"Remember that in a Libs mind it's about intentions not results."

What part of the above statement do you disagree with? Why? Example?

libtards4welfaresuccess said...

Instead of raising your voice you should reinforce your argument.

That's what normal, non-libtarded people would do...

Thissitemakesmesad said...

If anyone, ever, made a salient point on this site, it would register higher than "stupid but funny". If Evan's rhetoric ever evolved past straw men and name calling, it would be worth engaging in debate. But this tripe? This is just watching the monkey cage at the zoo. How many times is Evan going to reference the silly song "Imagine" as some reference point that liberals strive for? I mean, it's ridiculous, it does indeed sound like a comedian satirizing extreme-right blogs. Maybe it is, and Evan is just playing us all for suckers.

Danny Glover said...

thissitemakesmesad,

You are the only sucker. You're so opened minded that your brain fell out on the floor and rolled under th sofa where you keep your bong and Naomi Wolf cutouts.

Remember that in a Libs mind it's about intentions not results.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

Haha, he threw his poop! It's funny because he's a silly monkey.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

Seriously, how many times has Evan mentioned "Imagine" as if when us Liberals go to our monthly Meetings at Liberal headquarters (in San Francisco, natch!) we play that song as our opening invocation and then the Grand Chairman says, "Okay, how have we pushed the world closer to our Liberal vision as embodied by "Imagine" this week?"

It's actually "Total Eclipse of the Heart".

madpoopslinger said...

No it's NOT!

Thissitemakesmesad said...

That's funnier than a really loud fart, but not as funny as lighting a fart on fire.

Evan Sayet said...

I read your childish argument and, well, nobody believes that you listen to "Imagine" and then act upon it, rather that Lennon, in this much-beloved leftist anthem, accurately reflected the philosophy he saw around him in the hippy-dippy sixties and early seventies.

No countries -- in favor of one world bodies like the UN -- IS the Democrats' agenda.

No religions -- because they are fake and start wars -- IS the Democrats agenda.

Living only for the moment and for the self IS the Democrats' policies (this is why they borrow money and don't repay it and vote themselves lots of free money called "entitlements" with a future generation to pay for it.).

Again, it's not that you follow Imagine, it's that Imagine rightly nailed the leftists' "thinking" (selfish, self-centered, nothing to care about or believe in except instant pleasure.)

Thissitemakesmesad said...

Dance, monkey! Dance for my amusement!

elpoopslinger said...

Look who's dancing. LOL!

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

I wouldn't worry about this turd too much Evan... I'll keep her company... and lookin' the fool!

Thissitemakesmesad said...

You'll try, but you don't have the rapier sharp wit of "comedian" Evan Sayet, so you're unlikely to be able to keep up. So what I'm trying to say is, if Evan is a dancing monkey, and he is, you're a lemur with a bad itch.

wuxtry said...

Here's the Bush Death List everyone's talking about:

Roster of the Dead

This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called Witnesses had they not met their untimely ends. Some of the names on this list will give you pause. Some are rumor. Some you may find incredible, and some frightening. Do your own research http://www.google.com. You will draw your own conclusions.

The above paragraph began the last edition of the Bush Body Count. In previous editions, there were no special criteria for adding bodies - only that they could be related to the Bush family in some way, and be dead. In fact, the original Bush Body Count started as a parody of the so-called Clinton Death List.

Times have changed. The Bush Body Count is no longer a parody, and many of the names have been removed. This edition examines the scandals and misdeeds of the Bush family generations, and lists the corpses they leave in their wake.



Bush Went AWOL


Bodies


Sid Adger
Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of unknown causes. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard.

General James Rose
General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of unknown causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed.

Lt. Colonel William Harris, Jr.
Lt. Col. William Harris was one of two commanding officers who could not perform George W. Bush's annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973. They stated in their filing that "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Fortunately for George W. Bush, Lt. Col. Harris is not here to verify his 1973 statement. He's dead.

Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian
Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian was another of George W. Bush's commanding officers. He cannot testify in a court of law as to George W. Bush's dereliction of his sworn duty. Lt. Col. Killian is dead.

James Downing Aalund
Mr. Aalund's name is the first on a long list of young Texans who died in Vietnam. These young men did not have influential fathers to pull the strings necessary to get them into the Texas Air National Guard. If they had been so lucky, they would surely have fulfilled their responsibilities to the ANG, if only out of gratitude that they did not have to die, thousands of miles away in a strange land. They surely would not have disappeared from duty for over a year, as did our fearless leader George W. Bush.



Enron


Bodies


J. Clifford Baxter
Found dead in his car, shot in the head. Mr. Baxter was vice chairman of Enron Corp. when he resigned in May 2001. Enron has been hot copy lately with the revelation that they were the largest campaign contributors for George W. Bush. Was J. Clifford Baxter a potential witness to Bush foreknowledge of their wrongdoings? His death was ruled a suicide.

Charles Dana Rice
He was the senior vice president and treasurer of El Paso Corp., an energy corporation swept up in the recent energy scandal. Two months after the "suicide" of Enron executive Clifford Baxter, in the midst of questions about the accounting practices of El Paso Corp., Charles Rice was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head. His death was ruled a suicide.

James Daniel Watkins
His body was found on December 1, 2001 in the Pike National Forest in Colorado, a gunshot wound to the head. Mr. Watkins was a consultant for Arthur Andersen, the accounting firm for Enron. He disappeared on November 13 after he left work. He was described as a devoted family man who always called home if he were going to be late. Officials initially said that the death was suspicious, but have changed their tune and have ruled his death a suicide.

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown
He died in a plane crash on April 3, 1996. Was Ron Brown the first Enron body? In 1995 Enron officials accompanied Brown on a trade mission to India, and to Russia in 1994. Speculation among right-wing whackos suggests that our last duly-elected President, Bill Clinton, was somehow responsible for his death, but we wonder: was Secretary Brown privy to information that would conclusively link George W. Bush to Enron greed and corruption? Charles Meissner, Assistant Commerce Secretary, also died in this crash.

Jake Horton
He was the senior ice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast http://GregPalast.com and http://www.guardian.co.uk/enron/story/0,11337,643422,00.html , Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded.



Kennedy Assassination


Bodies


John Fitzgerald Kennedy
An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time.

Hale Boggs
He sat on the Warren Commission, which concluded that President Kennedy was slain by a lone assassin. Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs said that the Warren Report was false and that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI not only helped cover up the JFK murder but blackmailed Congress with massive wire-tapping and spying. He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist. Congressman Boggs' plane disappeared on a flight to Alaska in 1972. The press, the military, and the CIA publicly proclaimed the plane could not be located. Investigators later said that was a lie, that the plane had been found. On the plane were Nick Begich, a very popular Democratic Congressman, and Don Jonz, an aide to Mr. Boggs. All were killed.

George de Mohrenschildt
A rich Russian oilman, he was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gunshot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by George H.W. Bush).

Mrs. E. Howard Hunt
In December 1972, while George H. W. Bush was at the Republican National Convention, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. Dorothy Hunt, CIA operative and wife of Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash.



George H.W. Bush


Bodies


Gary Caradori
He was investigating Lawrence E. King, Jr., a very influential black Republican who was also a friend of George H.W.. Bush. King was director of the Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and was suspected of embezzling $40 million . The Nebraska Senate questioned child prostitutes, who accused King of running a child prostitution ring. One of these children said that she saw George H.W. Bush at one of King's parties. "Pronto", a newspaper in Barcelona, Spain, reported that the scandal "appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington DC who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself". On July 11, 1990, Gary Caradori was killed along with his 6-year old son in the crash of his small plane, after a mid-air explosion, the cause of which was never discovered. He had told friends repeatedly in the weeks before his death that he was afraid his plane would be sabotaged.

Orlando Letelier
He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED.

Ronni Moffit
She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't.

Jack Delaney and Ted White
These young men were killed when pilot George H. W. Bush abandoned his plane when it was hit by enemy fire. Much has been made of this story - Bush propaganda would have us believe that he was a hero. An eyewitness to the event tells us otherwise: Chester Mierzejewski, who was the turret gunner in another plane, had an unobstructed view. He states that he saw a "puff of smoke" come from Bush's plane and quickly dissipate. He states that the plane was never on fire and that Bush never attempted a water landing, which was standard procedure, and which would have given Mr. Delaney and Mr. White a chance.



Silent Voices


Bodies


Steve Kangas
His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away.

Danny Casolaro
He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, an apparent suicide.

Mark Lombardi
He was an accomplished conceptual artist who, while chatting on the phone with a banker friend about the Bush savings and loan scandal, started doodling a diagram and was inspired to create a complex series of drawings and sketches that charted the details of the scandal. According to the New York Times, "He was soon charting the complex matrices of personal and professional relationships, conflict of interest, malfeasance and fraud uncovered by investigations into the major financial and political scandals of the day; to keep facts and sources straight, he created a handwritten database that now includes around 12,000 3-by-5-inch cards."

On the evening of March 22, 2000, Mark Lombardi was found hanging in his loft, an apparent suicide.

James Hatfield
Mr. Hatfield was the author of Fortunate Son, an unauthorized biography of George W. Bush. The book detailed Bush's cocaine use and cover up of a cocaine arrest. He was found Wednesday, July 18, in a motel room, an apparent suicide.



Prescott Bush

Bodies


William S. Farish
He was one of Prescott Bush's partners in business deals with Adolph Hitler. He was devastated by the intense grilling he received from the Senate about his dealings with Nazis, and while Prescott Bush skated free, Farish collapsed and died on November 29, 1942.

James Forrestal
He was U.S. Secretary of Defense, and become a problem for Prescott Bush when he proposed racial integration of the Armed Forces. On March 28, 1949, he was forced out of office and flown on a military plane to Jupiter Island in Florida. From there he was taken to Walter Reed Army Hospital, where he was given insulin shock treatments. He was shielded from all visitors except his estranged wife. From "George Bush, the Unauthorized Biography":

On May 22, Forrestal's body was found, his bathrobe cord tied tightly around his neck, after he had plunged from a sixteenth-story hospital window. The chief psychiatrist called the death a suicide even before any investigation was started. The results of the Army's inquest were kept secret. Forrestal's diaries were published, 80 percent deleted, after a year of direct government censorship and rewriting



Texas Justice


Bodies


Karla Faye Tucker
She was executed in spite of enormous protest from the public, even those religious groups that advocate the death penalty. Even Pat Robertson thought that Karla was truly repentant and asked George W. Bush to spare her life. He refused. Afterward, in a Talk Magazine interview, Bush mocked the woman whose death warrant he had sanctioned, pursing his lips and whimpering, "Please don't kill me!"

David Wayne Spence
David Wayne Spence was executed in Texas in 1997 in spite of compelling evidence of his innocence. Two of the State's witnesses were co-defendants who testified to avoid the death penalty, one of whom changed his story three times in response to discrepancies. He later testified that D.A. Simons encouraged him to alter his testimony. Two other witnesses for the State were jailhouse snitches who recanted later and stated that Simons offered them favors in exchange for testimony. All of this and more was supposedly reviewed by Governor George W. Bush, but Bush refused to commute his sentence, and did not order the Board of Pardons and Paroles to review his request for clemency. It is a myth that a Texas Governor can do nothing to stop executions; the Board will almost always go with his recommendation. Bush washed his hands of the matter and did nothing. Reasonable doubt is not a factor in Texas justice.

Gary Graham
Gary Graham was convicted of the robbery and murder of a white man in 1981. Nearly two weeks after the crime, the state's prime witness could not pick Gary's picture out of a photo line-up. Mr. Graham was arrested with a 22 caliber pistol. The victim had been killed with a 22, but the police firearms examiner determined that Mr. Graham's gun DID NOT fire the fatal bullet. Four witnesses said Gary Graham was with them, miles away from the convenience store, when the murder occured. All four took and passed polygraph tests. George W. Bush, predictably, expressed his faith in the Texas judicial system and allowed Mr. Graham to be put to death. Mr. Graham maintained his innocence to the end.



Related Websites:

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Dubya

http://www.holywesternempire.org

http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/index.shtml

http://www.americanpolitics.com/070699deaththreat.html

thisiskillinme said...

Man, that was long...and it didn't even include the million he killed in Iraq!!

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

Nah, I simply cut and paste. It's simple. Cut here. Paste at your site.

humpagop said...

You gotta admit the righty embraces success...abstinence only, war on drugs, Katrina, Iwreck, Fucked Againistan, debtdebtdebtdebt, corporate crime, political crime, endless family value pervs, America's rep the lowest in history, blue skies, no child left unsodomized, return to torture, war crimes, halliburtosis, degrading the constitution, rotting infrastructure, environmental catastrophe, climate denial, the GOP a late night punch line...add to this as you wish...it's longer than that death list thing.

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

...did I mention that I'll post your love notes at all your friends sites, too. That'll make you real popular.

wuxtry said...

Sayet is still in deep denial over his heartthrob, Springsteen, turning out to be an irrational, lefty Bush hater...but who isn't a Bush hater these days? I mean among the living.

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

This is fun. Yep, they're gonna love you.

WhoDatSayWhoDat said...

Evan,

Thanks so much for this blog. You really have it nailed as to what the Dems are all about.

What's amazing is how they have managed to get half the country suffering from cranial rectal inversion. What's frightening is to contemplate what it will take to wake them up.

Stay strong, and keep up the fight. Can't wait for your book!

strooth said...

GOP Corrupts Justic Department: WASHINGTON — The Justice Department delayed prosecuting a key Republican official for jamming the phones of New Hampshire Democrats until after the 2004 election, protecting top GOP officials from the scandal until the voting was over.

An official with detailed knowledge of the investigation into the 2002 Election-Day scheme said the inquiry sputtered for months after a prosecutor sought approval to indict James Tobin, the northeast regional coordinator for the Republican National Committee.

The phone-jamming operation was aimed at preventing New Hampshire Democrats from rounding up voters in the close U.S. Senate race between Republican Rep. John Sununu and Democratic Gov. Jeanne Shaheen. Sununu's 19,000-vote victory helped the GOP regain control of the Senate.

While there were guilty pleas in the New Hampshire investigation prior to the 2004 presidential election, involvement of the national GOP wasn't confirmed. A Manchester, N.H., policeman quickly traced the jamming to Republican political operatives in 2003 and forwarded the evidence to the Justice Department for what ordinarily would be a straightforward case.

However, the official, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, told McClatchy that senior Justice Department officials slowed the inquiry. The official didn't know whether top department officials ordered the delays or what motivated those decisions.

Evan Sayet said...

Considering that they own the public schools, won't let any child escape, have made it so they can't be fired, can't be tested or rewarded on merit and now Hillary wants to rip children from their parents arms at the age THREE (where Barack Obama wants to teach them about sex!!!)...

Considering they own the media and, until ten years ago had a complete monopoly (Fox News is only ten, the blogesphere is brand new and talk radio is only conservative a little longer than that)...

Considering the absolute hate they spew at anyone who dares to stray from the dictates of the cult...if you're black and you don't hate America you're a "traitor to your race," you can be the Vice Presidential candidate one year and stand up for America against the terrorists and you can't even get the nomination for Senate...

Considering their fascist tactics of intimidation, physical violence (covered up by the media) and attacking any and all questioning of their sloganeering as "hate speech" it's pretty amazing we still get half the vote.

Remember, no Democrat has been elected with a majority of the vote since the great Liberal icon Jimmy Carter got 50.1 percent after the vicious slander campaign against Jerry Ford.

The reason we do even this well is because, despite their tactics and their power, their arguments are SO asinine, so foolish and so wrong -- just look at the schools since they took over, look at the streets of New York under the leftists who coddled rapists and hating the police and then under Giuliani who fought crime and was against the terrorists.

Just keep speaking out. Rosie O'Donnell can spew her moronities to a million people at once. We have to change one mind at a time.

It can (and will) be done.

strooth said...

Some poor sheep bleats...What's amazing is how they have managed to get half the country suffering from cranial rectal inversion.

You've only got a quarter...and they've always had their pinheads up their asses.

simes said...

Any minds the right wing movement was going to change occurred a long time ago...now half of them are changing back...because they have the ability to see what your movement of backwardness, greed, denial, hidden perversions, hatred of science in evolution and medicine, hatred of equal opportunity, hatred of the constitution, hatred of anyone not like yourself, religious insanity and most of all, INCOMPETENCE, has done to this country...never has a nation come down so far in so short a time.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

Dancing monkey, you're the greatest!

madhatter said...

All an independent minded voter has to do is visit this blog and see what complete asshats the Democrats and their operatives are.

They can't debate. They can't apply reason. They eschew rationality. They can only curse and scream and try and prevent others from talking.

'A' for Andronicus said...

They've been reduced to trying to jam coherent signals... with noise. It's a two-way street though. For every action generates a reaction... only in some cases, since this isn't physics, the reaction is very, very unequal.

Welcome to the world of the Internet terrorist. The anarchists play their games... we play ours.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

Well, we can't all come up with a hook as compelling as "Libruls are evil and wrong!!!!!11". Only professional "comedians" like Dancing Monkey can do that.

Danny Glover said...

Research Louisiana. I invite everybody who visits this blog to take a look at Louisiana and the effects that Dem control has on a state. Until recently (Google Bobby Jindal) we have never had a chance for political transparency. My entire family switch to Republican in the eighties because the Dems are morally bankrupt (Google Edwin Edwards and his political machine). Louisiana is a microcosm of what happens when civil servants become career politicians. Huey P. Long had a generous heart but a misguided idea of achieving results. His era ushered in decades of corruption. All in the name of helping the poor (blacks and rural white). Even though the civil rights movement create equal rights for all blacks in Louisiana were still slaves to a social experiment gone awry. The poor whites were to ignorant (due to horrible schools
) to challenge the Gov't, thus kept in the dark as to how their high taxes were being spent. It is a mess. We need jobs! The Dem Gov't set taxes on businesses so high that no one moves here and all of our young people are moving away (Texas). There is a reason that the State Sheriffs Association endorsed a Republican (unprecedented). That has never happened ever! Katrina/Rita exposed the failures of decades of political bumbling and half baked ideas. The Dems where I'm from are smooth talking con artist who prey on the the weak.

Remember that in a Libs mind it's about good intentions not results & the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Oh yeah, I wear these Libtard comments as a badge of honor.

Thissitemakesmesad said...

On April 5, 2006, months after independent investigators had demonstrated that levee failures were not due to natural forces beyond intended design strength, Lt. Gen. Carl Strock testified before the U. S. Senate Subcommittee on Energy and Water that, "We have now concluded we had problems with the design of the structure." He also testified that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers did not know of this mechanism of failure prior to August 29, 2005. The claim of ignorance is refuted, however, by the National Science Foundation investigators hired by the Army Corps of Engineers, who point to a 1986 study by the Corps itself that such separations were possible in the I-wall design.

Nearly two months later, June 1, 2006, the USACE finally and unequivocally admitted responsibility for the events in New Orleans with the release of the completed report. The Final Draft of the IPET report states the destructive forces of Katrina were "aided by incomplete protection, lower than authorized structures, and levee sections with erodible materials."

But yeah, the aftermath of Katrina was obviously the fault of local Louisiana Democrats. You people don't live on this planet. That's why you follow this Dancing Monkey.

Danny Glover said...

Why do you think that the structural integrity of the levee was weak? Well, I would have to say it is because Louisiana's leadership (D) would rather give contracts out to their brother-in-laws' to create lakes and golf courses instead of fix our roads and infrastructure. Talk of reinforcing NOLA's leavee's predates the 80's. My father said it has been on the table since Galveston was hit hard in the early 20th century. Trust me when I tell you that La.'s Dem party is the most corrupt state party in the US. This is why Bobby Jindal (R) was elected in the primary with 85% of the vote, Blanco (D) did not run again, Landreau (D)is screwed in the next Senate race, and most whites switched from Dem to Rep. Blacks are not far behind. They are growing more and more disgruntled by the poor educational standards; meaning, teachers job security first and textbooks second. The teachers union is solely responsible for the decline of our public schools. Like I said, if you keep the poor ignorant then they can't challenge your authority (thanx yuo Demakrats).

Thissitemakesmesad said...

"You would have to say". That about sums up this site quite nicely. The USACE came up with an extensive report documenting the failure of the levees in New Orleans where everybody (including, yes, local politicians who blocked certain initiatives) takes some blame but where, ultimately, the failure was one of structure and design, something entirely in the hands of the Army Corps of Engineers tasked and funded at the federal level. But "you would have to say" that it must be the DemRATS who are at fault because, well, you just know. That's why I don't take you, or anyone else on this ridiculous site, seriously. Especially Dancing Monkey and his retarded black-and-white worldview where liberals are bad and conservatives are good and we sing "Imagine" every day to remind ourselves of our One World Liberal Order that we're aiming for.

Now if you don't mind, I'll go back to posting only dick jokes, because that's what this place deserves.

Danny Glover said...

If you don't take me seriously then why even respond? Why are you even here? I live in La. and see what mismanagement really looks like. Did you know in San Francisco you have to pay for a floor plan before you can build a dog house, and in NY you cannot ride a bike with your feet off of the peddles? You "feel good" Libs spend our taxes on unenforcible laws while real problems (levees, illegal immigration, bridges, and the decline of public education) go unchecked. Your party is run by a bunch of kids who do not measure success by results. No wonder your party no longer talks about Iraq. IT HAS POSITIVE RESULTS!!! MoveOn being the mantra of the left only illustrates your need for accountability.

simes said...

Yes, we must focus on Louisiana...and forget the entire world where the GOP has made an unbelievable mess...both in this country and abroad...blinders are handy if you're an ideologue in denial. As for the most corrupt state org., Alaska wins it hands down ...the whole Republican party is on its way to jail there. Read about it on the tubes. In the rest of the country, only half of them are on their way to the pen.

Danny Glover said...

slimes,
You are wrong. Alaska has only been a state since 1950, where as Louisiana was admitted to the union in 1812. Our corruption is much more extensive. Edwin Edwards crimes trump any minor infraction you can dig up. Ever hold of William "Cold Cash" Jefferson?

Anyway, my point is that La. could be studied to better understand what happens when Dems get to control every aspect of Gov't. We are the poster child for Dems run a mock.

simesknows said...

Whoooeee...crackpot time...

No wonder your party no longer talks about Iraq. IT HAS POSITIVE RESULTS!!!

The guy was right...these guys are all trying to do satire...really really dumb satire.

As for NO, the federal responsibility for the levee failures and the failure of FEMA, afterward, are not debatable. KATRINA is synonymous with GOP "small gov't" disaster and for Bush's own personal callousness and incompetence.

Danny Glover said...

You are truley retarded. Why don't you find out when Fema was started.

Danny Glover said...

Slimes, if you are saying that GW is responsible for a global mess you should rethink the conception of modern terrorism. Does Ayatollah Khomeini ring a bell? BTW, how did he come to power?

simesoncrimes said...

Tunnel vision says...Anyway, my point is that La. could be studied to better understand what happens when Dems get to control every aspect of Gov't. We are the poster child for Dems run a mock.

The only point you've got is on your head...and you can only make it when you ignore everything else...which is what you losers are all about...why do you think the whole country and the world has turned against you? The US is the poster boy for what happens during right wing ascendancy. Man, what helpless creatures the few of you who are left are...I suppose that is inevitable...the last dregs of a dead cause.

Danny Glover said...

Do you deny positive results in Iraq?

Danny Glover said...

If the whole world has turned against us then why do we have more immigrant (both illegal and legal) coming into our county than ever before. If they hate us so much then they would mind us pulling the billions, if not trillions, in foriegn aid. The world hates you because you can only thrive in chaos.

simes said...

It's not "when it was started" simpleton...it's how it was run...Clinton had to rebuild it after the first Bush fucked it up...and had it running in professional form...then the gummint don't work morons came in and made sure it didn't. You're opinion is irrelevant anyway...you're history...looks like most libs are justhere for the weirdo entertainment

Danny Glover said...

Ad hominem attacks incoming!!!!

simes can't believe it said...

Immigrants!!! wow...how can a grown up completely misunderstand an argument so completely. These guys are really gape mouthed adolescent worshippers of the weirdo.

Danny Glover said...

So it is not about when terrorism started? You are truly immature.

It all matters!

The sooner you face your own party's fuck ups the sooner you'll be to adulthood.

Danny Glover said...

YES immigrants. What about them. Are you saying they are not coming to the US?

Danny Glover said...

Evan must be very popular if the Libtards assign a hitman to his blog. I love how you act like you are here for amusement. This shields you from having to answer any serious questions. "We're all just joshin' around..."

Thissitemakesmesad said...

What can I say, I enjoy good comedy, and this site is topnotch.

'A' for Andronicus said...

"Desperate" is more like it. General Petraeus has exposed the lying losers for exactly what they are. By November, The Republican tide is going to be rolling in on them like Katrina on a DNC-built levy.

Danny Glover said...

Well put "A."

Thissitemakesmesad said...

Like I said, you people don't live on this planet.

The surge will end, and then what? There's still no political reconciliation. No plan to share the oil revenues. The Turkish army is in northern Iraq because they fear a Kurdish uprising in their own country. Baghdad neighborhoods are riddled with walls so that Sunni and Shiite won't kill each other. But of course it's difficult to "fail" if you constantly change the definition of failure. If your definition of success is coming up with a plan to curb the violence 3 years after the violence began to get out of hand then yeah, I guess that's a success.

You people are fucking delusional.

Danny Glover said...

I guess thats you way of saying we are doing good in Iraq. I can live with that.

Anonymous said...

Who are these Republicans?

Huckabee Clueless After Bhutto's Death, Says Pakistan Has 'Eastern Borders' With Afghanistan 12/29

Rudith Giuliani...family values mafioso

Romney...religious flip flopper extraordinaire,

Thompson...poor actor, grumpy old reprobate cradle robber

McCain...semi-senile dodderer

A pack so strange that even Republicans laugh atthem.

blofeldt said...

More funny stuff...I guess thats you way of saying we are doing good in Iraq. I can live with that.

Yeah, but they can't live with it..who told you it was going well, there, Limbaugh the drug addled molestor, or your goofy guru? The disaster just keeps rolling bigger than ever...and is now spreading over the entire area.

blofeldt said...

ANOTHER Bush DISASTER according to his own lackey...
Bolton: US 'helped precipitate' conditions for Bhutto's assassination.

The US has seen its options for dealing with Pakistan crumble with Benazir Bhutto's assassination Thursday, and a former diplomat says American foreign policy decisions helped "precipitate" the former prime minister's death.

John Bolton, former US ambassador to the United Nations, said it was a mistake to collaborate with Bhutto's "desire to get back into the game in Pakistan" and view her as an alternative to the country's current leader, Pervez Musharraf.

"We in effect helped -- helped -- precipitate this dynamic that led to her tragic assassination," Bolton said Thursday on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes. "It's hard to see how that was the road to success."

Bolton said the primary concern of the US needs to be the security of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. With Bhutto's death plunging the country into chaos, there is now a "very grave danger" the weapons will fall under control of radical Islamist militants within the Pakistani military.

"What we have now is a prescription for chaos," Bolton said.

Another foreign policy expert told RAW STORY Thursday that the death of the opposition leader likely has caused the so-called atomic "Doomsday Clock" to tick closer to midnight.

Thursday night, Bolton told Fox viewers that Musharraf is "the person to put our money on" in hoping for an acceptable resolution to the crisis in Pakistan, although even he faces the threat of assassination.

As soon as Bhutto returned to Pakistan in October -- part of a deal brokered by the US -- she was targeted by assassins in another suicide bombing. US diplomats viewer her as the only hope for maintaining stability and promoting democracy, but Bolton argued perhaps the US acted to quickly in attempting to reform the country.

"You can't say this wasn't foreseeable, and it's obviously led to her death," Bolton said. "Hardly a successful strategy."

Danny Glover said...

Is that all you can do? Name calling? You make me glad to know that this is the best you Liberals have to offer.

Oh yeah, Iraq is going well (just ask Democrat Rep. Brian Baird). The proof is that none of your Dem Prez contenders are not talking about it anymore.

In fact they are trying to distance themselves from the success. This is a teachable lesson.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch and it's not over until the fat lady sings (Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.,).

HA HA!

blohard said...

Who ever said that these Bozos were the best the Libbicrats had to offer?

I don't think these cretins could talk their way out of a parking ticket if they looked like Miss America and were offering to give a free blowjob to the cop.

sax said...

When they don't have muslims to attack, they'll attack each other...vicious people...and these are their highest members.

BETHLEHEM, West Bank — Robed Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests went at each other with brooms and stones inside the Church of the Nativity on Thursday as long-standing rivalries erupted in violence during holiday cleaning.

The basilica, built over the grotto in Bethlehem where Christians believe Jesus was born, is administered jointly by Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Armenian Apostolic authorities. Any perceived encroachment on one group's turf can set off vicious feuds.

On Thursday, dozens of priests and cleaners came to the fortress-like church to scrub and sweep the floors, walls and rafters ahead of the Armenian and Orthodox Christmas, celebrated in the first week of January. Thousands of tourists visited the church this week for Christmas celebrations.

But the cleanup turned ugly after some of the Orthodox faithful stepped inside the Armenian church's section, touching off a scuffle between about 50 Greek Orthodox and 30 Armenians.

Palestinian police, armed with batons and shields, quickly formed a human cordon to separate the two sides so the cleaning could continue, then ordered an Associated Press photographer out of the church.

Four people, some with blood running from their faces, were slightly wounded.

farrier said...

Exposed on 60 Minutes...the GOP Mafia at work for Democracy..."Don Siegelman committed an unpardonable offense. He challenged the Republican Party’s control on the Alabama statehouse. And that was plenty of cause to lock him up and throw away the key. A political prosecution occurred, with wires running straight out of the White House. And with time, the real story of this case is seeping out. It is the sort of story that is familiar in a banana republic, or in the former Soviet Union. And now it’s come home to America." 12/26

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

Can't stay on topic. That's very rude.

Off I go...

Floydontheroid said...

The modrun rikist proffers nothing but name calling and ad homonym attax

'A' for Andronicus said...

Sept. 12, 2007

CLINTON, Iowa — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling for the immediate withdrawal of all U.S. combat brigades from Iraq, with the pullout being completed by the end of next year.

"Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was," Obama said in excerpts of the speech provided to The Associated Press.

"The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year — now," the Illinois senator says.

In a letter to Bush on Wednesday, Clinton urged him to bring troops home faster and not to use his prime-time speech Thursday to declare new successes in Iraq.

"What you are planning to tell the American people tomorrow night is that one year from now there will be the same number of troops in Iraq as there were one year ago. Mr. President, that is simply too little too late," Clinton wrote.

In criticizing the administration's current strategy, Clinton also linked the president's anticipated speech to the one he gave more than four years ago on an aircraft carrier under a banner that read "Mission accomplished."

"Do not repeat that mistake on Thursday night," Clinton said. "Do not misrepresent the facts about the situation on the ground ... Be candid with the American people."


Evan is right. The Democrats are ALWAYS wrong!

'A' for Andronicus said...

I think "junior" and "inexperienced" are too kind terms for what Democrats actually are, Evan.

McCain and Bush were the only ones who had it right

Thissitemakesmesad said...

DemRATS eat Christian babies.

farrier said...

Yeah, that mission was accomplified alright...go GW.

DDTfortheGOP said...

He did good in Afghanistan and Iraq, now he's helping Pak is become a model democracy...wunnerful wunnerful. How how can one fool destroy so much so fast?

katemaclaren said...

Evan, I'm so glad you're back! A lucid, intelligent, articulate voice--I almost said "the wilderness" but I think you speak for most of us whose voice is just too quiet to be heard. I am an English professor--it's hard to say anything to my colleagues whose minds are covered with a hard crust of ideology.

simes said...

haha here's a typical Repub candidate idiot...almost as bad as Bush:
PELLA, Iowa (CNN) -- A senior aide to Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee admitted Friday that the former Arkansas governor had "no foreign policy credentials" after his comments reacting to the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto raised questions.


Mike Huckabee campaigns in Pella, Iowa, on Friday.

During an event Friday in Pella, Iowa, Huckabee said the crisis sparked by Bhutto's death should lead to a crackdown on illegal immigrants from Pakistan.

The Huckabee official told CNN that when he said that, Huckabee was trying to turn attention away from scrutiny of his foreign policy knowledge.

Huckabee's foreign policy credentials have been under a microscope since the candidate admitted that he was unaware of an intelligence report that Iran had suspended its nuclear weapons program earlier this month.

"In light of what happened in Pakistan yesterday, it's interesting that there are more Pakistanis who have illegally crossed the border than of any other nationality except for those immediately south of our border," Huckabee said Friday.

simes said...

I bet that English prof is the kind that taught GW his grammar.
This party is a joke that just keeps giving.

Farmer John said...

Would Hillary Clinton start a civil war just to get elected?

Cliff Kincaid 12/28 - In the wake of Benazir Bhutto’s assassination, Wolf Blitzer of CNN made much of an e-mail, exclusively provided to him by a close associate of Bhutto and a Hillary Clinton supporter, casting blame on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf for her murder. We can now understand why Musharraf’s November 3 state-of-emergency decree took foreign news outlets like CNN off the air. Musharraf, who is one of the main targets of the al-Qaeda international terrorist organization, recognizes that the so-called “CNN effect” in global affairs can destabilize foreign governments, including his own. It’s no wonder that he recently complained about being betrayed by the Western media.

Now, with Hillary Clinton appearing on Blitzer’s show one day later, to complain about a “blank check” for Musharraf and the “failed policies” of the Bush Administration, the Democratic Party agenda is out in the open―overthrow the government of Pakistan, no matter what comes after it. This is the recipe that brought the Mullahs to power in Iran under Democrat Jimmy Carter’s Administration. It could bring al Qaeda to power in Pakistan, with control over dozens of nuclear weapons, if President Bush doesn’t get control of his State Department and the CIA.

With Hillary’s appearance on Blitzer’s show, one day after Siegel released the controversial Bhutto e-mail, it is clear that a network of Democratic Party officials is pursuing its own dangerous foreign policy agenda.

Siegel, who provided the e-mail to Blitzer and has endorsed Hillary for president, is a prominent member of a Democratic Party foreign policy network and served on the board of the federally-funded National Democratic Institute (NDI), a group that has been promoting “democracy” in Pakistan. Siegel was a lobbyist and registered foreign agent for Bhutto (according to the Washington Post, Siegel was paid $452,941 for one year’s work for Bhutto) when she was Prime Minister and his resumé includes work for President Jimmy Carter and Senator Ted Kennedy. Carter, you may recall, helped undermine and topple the Shah of Iran in the name of promoting human rights and democracy there. That gave us the fanatical Mullahs and their “peaceful” nuclear program.

Blitzer, on his show, referred to Siegel merely as Bhutto’s “long-time friend” and “U.S. spokesman” and someone having a long “relationship” with her. He is much more than that, and Blitzer knows it.

Just recently, former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, a member of the NDI board of directors, gave testimony blasting Musharraf for allegedly not doing enough to ensure credible elections are going to be held in Pakistan.

Is the Democratic Party position that Musharraf should be toppled, in the same way that Carter helped undermine the Shah? It is interesting to note that Democratic candidate Bill Richardson, considered a possible running mate for Hillary Clinton, called for Musharraf to step down but didn’t identify who his replacement ought to be. Yet, Richardson is supposed to be a Democrat with foreign policy experience.

In order to accelerate this campaign to destabilize Pakistan, Bhutto’s book, Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West, is being rushed into print by HarperCollins, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation. Ironically, Siegel told Blitzer that he helped write the book and that it is about how problems “within Islam and between Islam and the West” can be “reconciled peacefully, and in a way that promotes peace in the future.”

Hillary and her allies in the Democratic Party and the media are doing anything but promoting peace. They are exploiting a tragic death in order to destabilize a U.S. ally.

simesknowsthecrimes said...

Monstrous Xtian Rightists reveal what right wing power means:

Earlier this year, antiabortion revolutionary theocrats celebrated the tenth anniversary of the crimes of Paul Hill, the ex-Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) minister who, on July 29, 1994 assasinated abortion provider Dr. John Britton and James Barrett one of his escorts, and seriously wounding another, June Barrett, outside a clinic in Pensacola, Florida. Hill was convicted of his crimes and was executed by the State of Florida.
The festivities were called Paul Hill Days. The underground Army of God organization is now promoting a video of the celebration's reenactment of the murders. The following post on the Army of God web site, is apparently written by AOG spokesman Rev. Donald Spitz..

Anonymous said...

The fright before Christmas

Twas the fright before Christmas; the merchants did
grouse, Not a damn thing was selling, not even a
house; Restocking was futile with goods still on
shelves, And the streets
were now teeming with unemployed elves. The FSA warned
of a housing collapse, An environment hitherto known
just to Japs. And Shanghai and Shenzhen encountered
sharp falls An ominous sign when east Asia appalls.
(Only Tesco was thriving - and that was before 'Fresh
and Easy' was launched - how Wal-Mart did guffaw.) The
bankers were choking on alphabet soup Of CDOs, SIVs;
all sorts of gloop. Bond salesmen were sweating, awake
in their beds, With visions of dole queues (and
widening spreads).

In Floridian fund pools there was such a clatter As
portfolios blew up with foul fecal matter. Their
managers, much like their bonds, were distressed, With
the agents who'd rated them under arrest, And the
banks that had sold everyone down the river Saw their
equity ratios down to a sliver; Man turned against
man, and the brokers the same Lashed out at their
rivals (it was all just so lame): Punk, Ziegel slashed
Goldman Sachs, Morgan and Merrill, And Bear Stearns
and Lehman they did also imperil, The markets a-brim
with black swans and fat tails - What happens when
mania with credit prevails. The quant funds were
savaged as bell curves deflated And CFOs had to be
strongly sedated. Will central banks save us ? The
stock markets rally, But interbank lending now feels
like Death Valley. The bulls now see good news in
looming recession But try to
get upbeat about repossession. The bank stocks are
cheap now but could yet get cheaper As retailers cower
at the sight of the Reaper. Diversification in assets
should work If lending conditions continue berserk.
Some market neutrality also appeals For when
event-driven runs out of new deals, And if the
unthinkable does now unfold There'll be
merit in silver and still more in gold. Amid
confidence crisis and capital flight Happy Christmas
to all, and to all a good night.

Rosetta said...

Who ARE these Repubican Hypocrites?


Is There ANY GOP Office Holder Who is Not a Sexual Hypocrite. Another Doozy of a Story. Powerful Republican Texas Prosecutor Reveals His Love for His Executive Secretary Who is Not His Second Wife, If You Get Our Drift. Read on... 12/30

floyd said...

Pensito Review’s 2007 Nominees to the GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame
Editors | Dec. 29, 2007

Nominees Home
Ronald Reagan
Richard Mellon Scaife
Larry Craig
David Vitter
Dick Morris
Ted Haggard
Bob Allen
Richard Curtis
At the outset of putting together the list of nominees for the GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame this year, Richard Melon Scaife was far and away the top candidate for the top spot. The 75-year-old billionaire bankrolled the $2.3 million “Arkansas Project” to dig up dirt on the Clintons’ marriage in the 1990s — at the same time that he was ditching his first wife in order to marry his mistress — is likely to lose half his $1.3 billion fortune in a divorce settlement with his second wife (the aforementioned former mistress) because she caught him having an affair with a 43-year-old former prostitute. As GOP adulteries go, there are few more vivid examples than that.

But Scaife got edged after we inadvertently ran across at least one adulterous period in the life of Ronald Reagan — and, no, Nancy was not involved. In 1938, when Reagan started dating his future wife, actress Jane Wyman, she was married to someone else. About 10 years later, when his marriage to Wyman was coming undone, Reagan lived on and off in the Garden of Allah Hotel on the Sunset Strip, where, he would later brag, he often woke up next to women whose names he couldn’t remember.

Also on this year’s list — Sen. David Vitter, the Louisiana family values huckster whose long history of consorting with prostitutes was revealed last year; Huckabee advisor Dick Morris, who was caught in the 1990s having his toes sucked by a prostitute — and no less than four married male homophobes who got caught having sex with men (or trying to) — including three who paid for sex (or tried to).

Without further ado…

2007 GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame

NOMINEES
Ronald Reagan: Lived like a Hollywood playboy during his first marriage
Richard Mellon Scaife: Rightwing billionaire caught by his wife in LTR with a former hooker
Larry Craig: Homo-hating U.S. senator nabbed seeking sex in men’s room
David Vitter: Another senator with a morals agenda, his hid an irresistible penchant for prostitutes
Dick Morris: Current advisor to Rev. Huckabee, was embroiled in a prostitute scandal in the 1990s that involved toe sucking
Ted Haggard: Megachurch founder, Bush advisor and professional homophobe, he was outed by a male escort in 2006
Bob Allen: Homophobic Florida politician tried to buy sex from an undercover cop in the men’s room of a park
Richard Curtis: A rightwing gay-hating Washington pol who accused a hustler nicknamed “The Stallion” of extortion
Requirements for Nomination
It’s not the sex, it’s the hypocrisy.

To qualify as a nominee to Pensito Review’s GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame, a person must be a conservative politician or opinion leaders who promotes so-called family values — and especially the sanctity of marriage — but who has also had sex outside his or her marriage, or had sex with someone who was married to someone else at the time.

2006 - Top 10 GOP Adulterers
Pensito Review’s GOP Adulterers Hall of Fame is a spin-off one of our most popular articles, The Real Threat to Marriage: Top 10 GOP Adulterers, which was published in June 2006.

The 2006 Top 10 GOP Adulterers list included George H.W. Bush, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sen. John McCain, Rudolph Giuliani, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, Henry Hyde and Gary Bauer.

skyvester said...

What...only two new GOPhonys today?

Alabama's Republican Governor Bob Riley may have attempted to conceal illegal corporate donations to his 2002 and 2006 campaigns by representing them in campaign finance reports as having come from individuals, according to an an investigation carried out by the Montgomery Independent.

Riley's campaigns have been under close scrutiny during the past several weeks, with questions being raised about his narrow victory over incumbent Don Siegelman in 2002, followed by Siegelman's prosecution on what many consider to be trumped-up charges when he proposed to run again in 2006.

An ongoing investigative series has explored the 2002 Alabama governor's election, in which Riley pulled ahead only when a last minute change in the tally switched several thousand votes in one county from Siegelman's column to Riley's and the state's Republican attorney general refused to allow a recount. Karl Rove is alleged to have been directly involved in that election, working together with longtime Alabama GOP operative William Canary.

dumbdumbdem said...

See what happens when you put a million monkeys to work at a million typewriters? You get one floyd skyvester for a reader.

dumbdumbdem said...

...he then copies and pastes the monkey's work at Evan's blog... and claims it as his own "original" work.

What a maroon.

simes said...

I don't know skyv, but I didn't see anyone claiming anything...just posting a news story...is that the same old pathetic wingnuts attempt to deflect from the real story?...MORE GOP corruption...of course it is. When they nab another crook, whine about the guy who reports the story...btw lots of stories on the GOP election theft starting to break out all over the place...the dike can't hold too much longer.

simes said...

Aziz Huq: The Bush Administration's policy with respect to Pakistan, in short, is a train wreck. As usual, the White House has assumed that military force--here deployed by a vassal state--could clamp down on terrorism. As usual, it has utterly failed to understand complex relations, here the links between ISI and Al Qaeda going back to the Afghan war, and the way in which corruption and a drift to purely "faith-based" politics push more and more people toward the violently eschatological ideology of our enemies. 12/30

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

This isn't your blog. Your "news" stories are off topic and, therefore RUDE. Go cut and paste on your own webpage (which you conceal from everyone) where brainless idiots like skyv can go make RUDE comments and paste more meaningless drivel.

...but RUDE is all you've got. Nobody would ever go to YOUR website/blog to read ANYTHING.

Loser.

Pwn'd by Evan Sayet said...

Why don't you stick to reading Huq's jihadi lovers over at the Huffington Post. What's the matter, don't they let you post there anymore? They censor your sorry ass, simes (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Larry Blivins said...

It seems to me that sime's posts are very much on target...you want to talk about the Dem candidates foreign policy qualifications while defending the disastrous foreign policy of your retarded governor from Texas...very much the topic you presented.

dumbdumderdemocrat said...

...not even close to topic oblivinvious...

skyvester said...

Hagel: Bush administration is 'incompetent'

"This is one of the most arrogant, incompetent administrations I've ever seen personally or ever read about," the always blunt and frequently quotable Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., said yesterday during an appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

"This administration in my opinion has been as unprepared as any administration I'm aware of," Hagel added, "not only the ones that I have been somehow connected to and that's been every administration -- either I've been in Washington or worked within an administration or Congress or some way dealing with them since the first Nixon administration. I would rate this one the lowest in capacity, in capability, in policy, in consensus -- almost every area, I would give it the lowest grade. ......

You see, the modern Republican party has left its roots and become a party of extreme rightists...they eschew advice from reasonable Republicans who remember when they were not run by extremists.

prof edvard teller said...

Tellink is that Repubs like Hagel and Jeffords and Bloomberg have to repudiate the party to maintain integrity...tellink, telling indeed.

Evan Sayet said...

Okay, you take the Vermont leftist and the politically conniving Democrat-turned-Republican-turned-independent (so he could run for President) and I'll take the Dem's VP nominee -- known as the "conscience of the Democrats" -- Joe Lieberman.

You take the Vermont leftist and the conniving Bloomberg and I'll take Zell Miller, United States Senator and Democrat Party icon who denounced the Democrats and gave the keynote speech at the Republican convention.

You take Hagel (who didn't denounce the party but you can have him anyway) and I'll take Tammy Bruce, the lesbian, feminist, former President of NOW's largest chapter who, unlike Jeffords, didn't make a big deal to swap parties but rather recognized that if she wanted to protect her values, the fascists on the left are more threatening to her as a lesbian, feminist than are the good people on the right.

Telling. Yes, indeed, very telling.

drstrangelove said...

CHEROKEE, IA — Before he was a silver-haired elder statesman, ex-president, and globe-trotting do-gooder, Bill Clinton was Bubba.

And out in rural Western Iowa, Bubba is back.

“I love saying this,” he began in Sergeant Bluff. “I never had a nickel to my name until I got to the White House, and I was broker when I left than when I came in. I had the lowest net worth of any president of the United States.”


My, how fortune has blessed...

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)
Net worth: $25-$38 million

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kans.)
Net worth: $2.5-$10 million

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (R)
Net worth: not available [@@ actually $250 Million ]

[@@@ Former Mayor of NYC, Rudy Giuliani
Net Worth more than $30 million]

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.)
Net worth: $10-$50 million

Sen. Barack Obama(D-Ill.)
Net worth: $1-$2.5 million

Former senator John Edwards(D-N.C.)
Net worth: $12.8-$60 million.

simes said...

Who Are These Republicans?

View from the UK: "The ranks of the Grand Old Party of Abe Lincoln are divided as it goes into the Iowa caucus battle on Tuesday, with no agreement on what it stands for." 1/1

Abe wouldn't have spit on this party any time in the last hundred years.

Huckabee and Romney Make Last Minute Push for the "I Embrace Christ But Don't Have to Act Like Him" Squad 1/1

Ron Paul said the decision to exclude him from a debate on Fox News Sunday the weekend before the New Hampshire Primary is proof that the network "is scared" of him. 1/1

The radical rightist cannot tolerate a real small government candidate. They have become the party of spend, waste and charge it to tomorrow.

"Anti-abortion militant Randall Terry plans to drive the demon Giuliani out of the GOP -- and then turn his attention to the Democrats." 1/1

Rudith Giuliani...the three family values man.

P.M. Carpenter: John McCain Must Have Blown a Gasket Reading the Washington Post Monday Morning... 1/1

John "Senile" McCain...biggest lobby whore in the business, from the Keating Five down to this very day.

All in all, a pack of grotesques, hypocrites, lightweights, incompetents, flip flopper, religious nuts and thieves so pathetic that even the Republican voter does not want them and will most likely stay home on election day.

simes said...

I like that trade...Lieberman...a sanctimonious, little weirdo whose only allegiance is to the worst of Likudnik thugs rather than to his own country.

Tammy Bruce...who?

Zell Miller...Senile twenty years ago...such an embarassing crackpot that GW banned him from his coterie at the 2000 convention.

simeschimes said...

Lieberman is the traitor to his country... for NOT siding with the f'ing COMINTERN's of the DNC.

Bullwinkle, "Keep sipping the Upsidasium, Rocky!"

chimessimes said...

Spit!

Funny isn't it. The Scoop Jackson and Charlie Wilson Democrats break from the DNC become the "Evil Neocon's," erstwhile the New Lefties fill their vacant seats with fellow travellers.

Spit

chimessimes said...

Spit!

Funny isn't it. The Scoop Jackson and Charlie Wilson Democrats break from the DNC become the "Evil Neocon's," erstwhile the New Lefties fill their vacant seats with fellow travellers.

Spit

elitegal said...

Damn, don't we wish the current Democrats -- GOPlite toadies -- were one tenth as far left as these callow, little, freshmen poli-sci weenies think they are.Put the little geeks in my class for a while.

gaysingaporeswinger said...

And there you have it, an endorsement of the CPUSA and vision for 21st century Amerika from our "friends" on the New Left. "Oh, the Democrats, Pelosi, Reid, etc. aren't nearly so radical"... not so long as they can't over-ride a veto or a filibuster, anyways...

*Spit!*

sac said...

yayayayaya...communism, blahblah blah blah...jeezus these little morons are stupid

Farmer John said...

Well,sackofcrap, you are right about one thing. The New Left sheds the labels of failure like "communist" and even "liberal" like a snake sheds his skin... after every meal.

Today its' all about "social justice" and "equality". If the Lefties had stopped at "justice" and "equality" they'd have been on firmer footing. But you know the Marcusians and Frankfurt School New Left intellectuals. Why stop at "good" enough when you can FAIL to make things "better". All that's required is a little critical theory. After all, since Marx and Engels muffed it, who wants to deal with something as complicated as dialectic! You'd have to be able to understand Plato's "Parmenides" of Aristotle's "Topics". Scholarship and research into the past is not nearly as fun as positing new radical social hypotheses and watching the people starve.

Farmer John said...

I guess that what's it means to be a "progressive". Screw up a good thing... then moveon.org.

Farmer John said...

If the New Left were to ever stumble across a social policy that worked, they'd HAVE to change it. How else could they "progress" any further?

simes said...

US Casualties in Afghanistan Hit Record

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010108Y.shtml
Jason Straziuso, reporting for The Associated Press, writes: "Six years after the 2001 US-led invasion, violence persists in much of southern Afghanistan where the government has little presence, and recent militant attacks in Pakistan highlight a long-term regional problem with al-Qaida and the Taliban. Afghanistan in 2007 saw record violence that killed more than 6,500 people, including 110 US troops - the highest level ever in Afghanistan - and almost 4,500 militants, according to an Associated Press count. Britain lost 41 soldiers, while Canada lost 30. Other nations lost a total of 40."

simes said...

Who cares about the Marcusian/Frankfurt crap, you pedantic pinhead...look at what the real democrats want. You blither on like a total moron about utterly irrelevant crap like some asylum inmate ...I guess that's your particular way of avoiding reality. The greatest period in American history occurred from FDR's administration on through the liberal period into the seventies...then your backward, narrow minded, low life agenda began to take the country down to its lowest ebb -- today. America has seen enough and wants to get back to what WORKS...liberal, forward looking, long range policies...the only SUCCESSFUL policies they've ever seen. Keep your head in a book, worm, and see if you can keep hiding from it.

Farmer John said...

The greatest period in American history occurred from FDR's administration on through the liberal period into the seventies...then your backward, narrow minded, low life agenda began to take the country down to its lowest ebb -- today.

So much for Marx's primitive accumulation of capital theories and legacies of social injustice. There is no economic or social latency.

So much for men handicapped at the starting line of a race by the shackles of previous generations of enslavement. What do we need affirmative action for, again?

Whatever political decisions we make today, last for today only, says you. The reason we're headed downhill at present is because of the excesses of liberalism from FDR through the 60s.

Progressives, dumber than stumps. G_d love 'em. LOL!

Farmer John said...

150 vs 4,500. A 30:1 bodycount. Good hunting, guys! simes thinks we're losing. LOL!

elfkiller said...

Someone show Framer how to write english.

simes said...

Farmer probably thinks we won in Viernam because the stats were on our side. You guys are too easy to kick around...you're the last dregs of the worst dregs of the dumbest disaster monkeys in the USA.

stillpaying4simescrimes said...

No, we lost Vietnam because American surrender monkeys like YOU voted to cut off funds in '75 for a completely Vietnamized war resulting in an innocent 2.5 million Asian deaths.

But what do you care. Just a bunch of dead gooks, right?

elitegal said...

So, you're saying the great majority of Americans were liberal surrender monkeys...kind of like the great majority are now re. Iwreck. That must be terribly disheartening for you...what point is there for you in starting your stupid, criminal wars if we smart people are going to lose them for you?

richardnixonwasagreatpresident said...

Nope. The vast majority of Americans were extremely pissed off at RMN/Watergate when they went to the polls in '74 giving the liberal surrender monkeys an unprecedented numerical advantage in Congress...allowing them to do what they are threatening to do "again" in '09... cut off war funding despite the actual situation on the ground.

America wins wars. Then Democrats throw their hard-won victories away. Idealogues.

gump said...

I believe he's talking about the endless polls showing the vast majority of America wanted out of the war long before we got out, ostrich...and they were also pissed at Nixon for lying about how he had a "secret plan to end the war" when he had nothing but lies. Same thing now, pathetico, everyone conscious believes it was a huge mistake and many know it was a monstrous war crime.

trickydickwonthewar said...

I believe your reasoning has fallen permanent victim to Condorcet's Paradox.

And please. There was no secret Nixon plan. Vietnamization of the war started on Day 1 of Nixon's first term, and America had COMPLETELY re-deployed it's forces by the end of his first term in office. Nixon was re-elected in A LANDSLIDE, so successful had his policies been.

Watergate turned him into a goat, and in 1975, two years after America had turned the war over to the Vietnamese, a resentful Democratic Congress cut off funding for the Vietnamese, and a few short months later, Saigon fell... and Uncle Ho killed 2.5 million helpless civilians.

And the Iraqification of the current War is precisely what we have been pursuing... and now that the surge has accomplished its' mission (much as the Christmas Bombings brought the Vietnamese to the bargaining table in Paris), the Democrat's remain Hell bent upon throwing all hard-won gains away.

But we know you DNC ideologues. You'd rather throw in the towel 2 years after a war is won, then admit the DNC was always wrong, and is a party filled with surrender monkeys.

skyvies said...

Sound reasoning, there, rewriter...Nixon's first term campaign was run on his "secret plan." If you don't know that, don't display your stupidity. His second term was won on the basis of his lovely LIBERAL governing policies...one of the great liberal presidents in many ways. Now, tell us how it's possible to throw in a towel years after a war is won...that should be fun. See, when they're won, they're over...duhyupyupyup. What people realized long before this is that there was no way to win this war...we came closest to winning by leaving...that exposed the split in the commie world...soon China was invading VN and the sino- soviet conflict was raging on the border. All the VN war did is keep them together and bleed us to death.

Farmer John said...

tell us how it's possible to throw in a towel years after a war is won...

Sure, dumbass. Vietnamize the war... then unilaterally withdraw financial and military support for the southern half, as the Chinese and Soviets poor billions of $ in military equipment and ammo into the northern half.

Just like Iraq. Pour in a trillion to prop up and rebuild the Shi'a government, then completely turn off the spigot and let the Saudi'a and Yemeni's pour the profits of $100/barrel oil on dissatisfied Sunni sheiks in Anbar.

Melvin Laird - The truth about Vietnam that revisionist historians conveniently forget is that the United States had not lost when we withdrew in 1973. In fact, we grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory two years later when Congress cut off the funding for South Vietnam that had allowed it to continue to fight on its own. Over the four years of Nixon's first term, I had cautiously engineered the withdrawal of the majority of our forces while building up South Vietnam's ability to defend itself. My colleague and friend Henry Kissinger, meanwhile, had negotiated a viable agreement between North and South Vietnam, which was signed in January 1973. It allowed for the United States to withdraw completely its few remaining troops and for the United States and the Soviet Union to continue funding their respective allies in the war at a specified level. Each superpower was permitted to pay for replacement arms and equipment. Documents released from North Vietnamese historical files in recent years have proved that the Soviets violated the treaty from the moment the ink was dry, continuing to send more than $1 billion a year to Hanoi. The United States barely stuck to the allowed amount of military aid for two years, and that was a mere fraction of the Soviet contribution.

Yet during those two years, South Vietnam held its own courageously and respectably against a better-bankrolled enemy. Peace talks continued between the North and the South until the day in 1975 when Congress cut off U.S. funding. The Communists walked out of the talks and never returned. Without U.S. funding, South Vietnam was quickly overrun. We saved a mere $297 million a year and in the process doomed South Vietnam, which had been ably fighting the war without our troops since 1973.

Thissitemakesmelaugh said...

Talk about your revisionist history. As if money alone would have saved South Vietnam from the communists. Thieu didn't want cash - he wanted air strikes. The US, rightly, refused, seeing it as a last-gasp effort in a lost cause that would merely harm civilians and push the country further into the hands of the communists (sort of like Nixon's carpet-bombing Cambodia, which so far you have failed to mention, and which solidified the Khmer Rouge's hold on Cambodian peasants). It's amazing to me that the right has taken the exact wrong lessons from Vietnam, 30 short years after it ended.

Farmer John said...

Yes, the South Vietnamese wanted to throw wads of cash at the northern invader's tanks...

...and refused? LOL! The DNC controlled Congress passed the War Powers Resulution which hamstrung Ford and prevented military assistance. Why do you think Bush went to Congress to get permission for Iraq?

Ford couldn't have ordered an airline ticket to Paris for a trip lasting more than 60 days, let alone order airstrikes on the invading Northern Vietnamese tank columns for more than a 60 day delaying action.

The war became a "lost cause" the day the DNC Congress hamstrung the president and then threw in the funding towel. You're hopeless.

Farmer John said...

Here's the lesson of the Vietnam War in a nutshell.

"If you give up, you lose."

"O Krakatuk, hard nut from which I die
Hee hee, pee pee
You too, Nutcracker, will perish by and by.
My son with sevenfold crown
Will bring Nutcracker down.
Yea, never fear
He will avenge his mother dear.
O Life, blood red and milky white,
I leave thee for the shades of night.
Squeak!"

Thissitemakesmelaugh said...

Seriously, that is some delusional drivel right there. The US had already pulled out of a war that was not only deeply unpopular, but was entirely unwinnable and had already cost us tens of thousands of lives to maintain a stalemate for a decade. So a few hawks wanted to re-open hostilities when the North Vietnamese invaded - Congress (rightly) realized that other than full-blown military intervention, nothing could save the South Vietnamese government, and the American public would then have run them out on a rail. But you create your own history, where Democrats turned their backs on a winnable war, and then you use it to justify military intervention in another country where we have already lost far too many soldiers and where the citizens don't want our presence. In another year people like you will finally be swept out of the executive branch and perhaps America can regain some measure of sanity about what our military should and should not be used to do.

titteringnitwit said...

Unwinnable? What did the Vietnamese sign in Paris then?

At least Le Duc was no hypocrite. Oh, that's right... HE WAS!

Farmer John said...

This is why people who try and 'teach' virtue should never be paid. Fools are 'unteachable'. They think they already 'know' something. And taking money from them for 'professing' to teach them something would be the perpetration of a gross fraud upon both the student, and the rest of the public at large.

skyvies said...

shit farmer spreads manure:tell us how it's possible to throw in a towel years after a war is won...

Sure, dumbass. Vietnamize the war... then unilaterally withdraw financial and military support for the southern half, as the Chinese and Soviets poor billions of $ in military equipment and ammo into the northern half.

It it had been won for two years,pickled brain, by definition it would have been OVER...but in fact it was never anywhere near won...NVN had a huge population and the soviets and chinese would have financed them til doomsday. They wanted our meddling asses out of there and did us a favor by kicking it out. What we did was finally cut our losses ...to stay would have been the real loss.

Farmer John said...

The war was won as far as America was concerned. No Americans were dying and it was only costing us $297M a year to keep ARVN supplied.

No, ARVN's struggle wasn't over. But America's was.

But the DNC decided $300M was too much treasure. And so it sold out 2.5M innocent brown people, and saved $100 a head.

The same thing the DNC intends to do with our Iraq allies once we turn war over to them. So admit it. YOU hate brown people, don't you.

Farmer John said...

btw - Do you think the struggle against Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda will be OVER once we withdraw from Iraq? Afghanistan? Do you think the struggle would be over if we sold out Israel, too?

Nope. A new and much more massive war would just be beginning...

War never ends. It can't. There's always somebody out there somewhere who wants what you've got and isn't afraid to take it from you.

elitegal said...

No, ARVN's struggle wasn't over. But America's was.

You pathetic bonehead...all ARVN was doing was temporarily holding them off,prolonging the killing and chaos, propping up a corrupt regime and keeping Vietnam from being united. It was not remotely won and "winning" would not have been anything positive for them or for the US at any rate. The entire thing was insane and the Democrats did what the vast majority of American people wanted and what was right.

surrendermonkey said...

To watch 2.5 million gooks get killed. Yup.

Just what the racist Democrats love to see, more brown people die, needlessly.

confusedyoungrepublican said...

Just what the racist Democrats love to see, more brown people die, needlessly

Yes...I cry myself to sleep evey night wondering why the brown people think we fat, pink Republicans don't love them.

legree said...

As a fat, pink Republican, I understand that the little brown people are not smart enough to understand why they should vote for us...and I just love them anyway.

lott said...

Yes yes oh that's the only way...one sunny day they will awaken and see why our tough love was designed only to make them stronger and stonger.

kleagle said...

I got a pile of dry wood for you nigrah lovahs.

Obama said...

As president I will show y'all something about brown folks. Have you ever had a big pile of dry wood shoved up your ass?

fatpinkrepublican said...

Thinkin of gettin a tanning lamp...

achtungdemocrat said...

The myth of the racist republican is just sooo sad. We aren't the party that currently has a grand kleagle of the KKK third in line to the presidency.

lettitgohonky said...

Passe' Idiot blurts...The myth of the racist republican is just sooo sad. We aren't the party that currently has a grand kleagle of the KKK third in line to the presidency.

These poor morons have to go back fifty years to come up with a charge. No wonder the country hates their fool asses.

mathimpaireddonkey said...

Still math impaired. LOL!

Teddypoo said...

But, they've got Chappaquiddick...oh that was fifty years ago, too.